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« on: November 25, 2007, 01:54:37 AM »

I started my pics North of me in Holland with Willem the third 1877 MS63 and Wilhelmina the year before she became queen 1897 MS65
These coins were available on ebay France below melt since the French did not want them

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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2007, 02:16:02 AM »

I added Wilhelmina with the collar 1912 and without collar 1925
Both MS63 with a little finger grease which probably would solvent away
But I got these at a moneyexchanger in Belgium for melt

http://www.knightsofthecointable.com/kotctgallery/main.php?g2_itemId=406

These are the 4 best I got
They have one thing in common MS and meltprice

The year of the coronation for instance 1898 goes as much as 100% premium over gold

Characteristics 10 FL ( florin or guilder ) coins 6.729 gram at  0.900 purity diameter 22 mm
This is a non standard weight in a Europe that had the Latin Union standardisation ( Union Latine )

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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2007, 03:10:50 AM »

Very nice, I duly regret which I have parted with my Dutch and Belgian gold coins years ago, I had a nice Ducat that was struck in Brussels in 1829, several other Dutch Ducats from the late 19th century and of course the obligatory YH Wilhelmina 10 Florin from 1897.  That is the coin I miss the most.  I have looked for them again, but now they seem to be so baggy etc.  I like those coins because she reigned for so long, well over 50 years and had a variety of portraits on her coinage.
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« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2007, 07:44:17 PM »

There is a 1897 for sale right now on ebay germany ( saw it two days ago ) may or may not be MS since I did not analyze the pic in my usual mode witch takes 20 minutes at least
I explained this on the old old mom forum
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Make blue
Render verdict

PS 1897 is the last one with youth and long hair cause in 1898 as a young queen she looks ten years older
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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2007, 07:51:49 PM »

Scottishmoney the YH Wilhelmina is one of my favorite coins of the world, both silver and gold. After losing a great job of 28 years due to elimination my Netherlands gold eventually had to go. I held on to that 1897 for a long as I could but....! Still have some silver but it is just not the same!
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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2007, 08:07:42 PM »

I understand Terry
I had to sell much but fortunately only MS South Africans and MS Suisse etc
All coins that are difficult but not impossible to replace today
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2007, 08:10:59 PM »

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I never had a ducat in my life
I generally have little below the 20 francs norm of the Latin Union
However your comment on Ducats makes me remember I asked the forgery forum about a Venice Ducat which I suspected to be false and their verdict was indeed false

So I have a proof restrike with certificate and number of a double Ducat Grin
I forgot so I added it to the Holland section

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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2007, 01:34:02 AM »

Back before I was wifed and kidded I owned quite a collection of European gold, the LMU was very fascinating, how else could you link currencies diverse as the Spanish Peseta and the Russian Ruble(well 7.5 Ruble)

The 20 Units were referred to as Napoleons in France, and that was how I asked for them when I bought them in banks in Paris.  I liked the novelty of buying up old gold coins for spot.  I don't think I want to collect them all again, but would like of course the Dutch 10 Gulden of 1897 with Wilhelmina as a young girl, one of the early Vrenelli's from Switzerland, a 10 Kroner from Denmark etc.
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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2007, 02:28:26 AM »

France has a goldtax now so the place to buy is Belgium
Attached is the price of the exchange agents ( if it does not open to the right page you want goudkoersen )
105Euro for the Union Latine coins on friday close

http://www.munters.be/servlet/javaparser?pgm=lst_or_new&lg=nl

People in France started hoarding gold from 1852 onwards
So it is pretty easy to get an AU from that date upwards
That means Napoleon III and The lucky angel and of course Marianne and the rooster
I think in 1908 they started the restrike series so beware if you want an original ( correct year is in Krause)
Since I got them at melt I did not really care but I have an MS 65 angel which I treasure

The old French people still refer to the coins as Louis d'or ( incorrect) whereas the name Napoleon is as incorrect for an angel or a rooster
So I ask for French 20 FF coins

In general I have free access to Guilders and Sovereigns and Vrenelli and Napoleons but not to Russian or Danish coins
and a money exchanger does not let you pick and choose for meltvalue
Standard are Nuggets and Kruger and New Eagles too

My preferred money exchanger made a nice mistake at one time
I walked in and he had four coins from the isles of man and said  1.85 ounces
When I was back home I found they were MS and 1.99 ounces  Grin and I only paid melt plus 1.5% for 1.85 ounces
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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2007, 04:37:19 AM »

The YH Wilhelmina impresses me as it could just be the "girl next door"? The coin just does NOT scream Royality, government, power or wealth. It is probably the most down to earth design, with a real human feel, of any gold I have ever seen. Just a really feel good, clean, crisp design of a young lady. Someday I will own "her" again.
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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2007, 07:55:41 PM »

The YH Wilhelmina impresses me as it could just be the "girl next door"? The coin just does NOT scream Royality, government, power or wealth. It is probably the most down to earth design, with a real human feel, of any gold I have ever seen. Just a really feel good, clean, crisp design of a young lady. Someday I will own "her" again.

One year later the year of her coronation it screem Roalty
Unbelievable
Ho by the way since I seem to be excluded from posting in the news thread which is a teatalk amongst moderators tell TK100 that most flatbed scanners hate gold and or silver and or copper and to try it out in the shop first

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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2007, 12:00:52 AM »

Now on ebay germany shipped world wide
Lousy pics but at first glance nice coin
I still am strapped for time but if anybody wants a pic analysis will see what I can do

http://cgi.ebay.de/Holland-10-Gulden-Gold-1897-Wilhelmina-Nederlanden_W0QQitemZ300176074352QQihZ020QQcategoryZ28683QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2007, 12:26:34 AM »

I need new equipment but this is simply too expensive
Pitty nice Polish Knight and harmer

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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2007, 08:03:24 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2007, 02:19:05 AM »

Luxemburg I can be short I only got one coin 40 F but I think it is a commem medal
Without further ado the charming ERMESINDE

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