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Worldwide Coins & Bank Notes => Other World Coins => Topic started by: triggersmob on September 18, 2010, 06:44:32 AM

Welcome to a stroll down memory lane... Looks a lot different, HUH?

Title: Lions on Coins
Post by: triggersmob on September 18, 2010, 06:44:32 AM
In an attempt to answer Templars question, about how many counties have Lions on their coins.
I have started this thread. So post any coins with Lions and I will keep a list of names.

Ellekitty, where are you?

Albania
Algeria
Armenia
Ascension Island
Australia
Austria
Belgium
Bermuda
Bohemia and Moravia
British West Indies
Bulgaria
Canada
Congo
Cyprus
Czechoslovakia
Czech Republic
Denmark
East Africa
Estonia
Ethiopia
Fiji
Finland
Georgia
Ghana
Great Britain
Guatemala
Guernsey
Hong Kong
India
Iran
Israel
Italy
Kenya
Latvia
Lebanon
Luxembourg
Mali
Morocco
Myanmar
Netherland Indies
Netherlands
Norway
Paraguay
Phillipines
Rhodesia-Nyasaland
Rwanda-Burundi
Sierre Leone
Singapore
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
Syria
Tanzania
Tibet

Total 54 so far.


Algeria
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/2007_Algeria_20_Dinars.JPG)

Ascension Island
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1978_Ascension_Island_One_Crown.JPG)

Belgium
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1939_Belgium_One_Franc.JPG)

Czechoslovakia or Czech Republic
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/2005_Czech_Republic_50_Haleru.JPG)

East Africa
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1945_East_Africa_One_Shilling.JPG)

Estonia
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1994_Estonia_5_Krooni.JPG)

Ethiopia
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1936_Ethiopia_1_Cent.JPG)



 


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: triggersmob on September 18, 2010, 06:55:55 AM
Finland
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1935_Finland_10_Pennia.JPG)

Georgia
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1993_Georgia_10_Thetri.JPG)

Ghana (nearly missed this one, it's so small)
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1999_Ghana_100_Cedis.JPG)

Great Britain
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1957_Great_Britain_One_Shilling.JPG)

Hong Kong
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1990_Hong_Kong_One_Dollar.JPG)




 


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: triggersmob on September 18, 2010, 07:08:48 AM
India
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/2008_India_50_Paise.JPG)

Iran
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1973_Iran_1_Rial.JPG)

Kenya
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1975_Kenya_One_Shilling.JPG)

Latvia
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/2003_Latvia_1_Santims.JPG)

Luxembourg
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1972_Luxembourg_25_Centimes.JPG)

 



 


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: Goose on September 18, 2010, 07:20:07 AM
Steve, the Estonian coin (3 Lions on a Sheild) look almost exactly like the obverses of the 1834-1911 8 Doubles coins of Guernsey. How are the countries related?


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: triggersmob on September 18, 2010, 07:24:50 AM
Morocco
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1987_Morocco_5_Dirhams.JPG)

Myanmar
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1953_Myanmar_1_Pya.JPG)

 


 


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: triggersmob on September 18, 2010, 07:30:50 AM
Steve, the Estonian coin (3 Lions on a Sheild) look almost exactly like the obverses of the 1834-1911 8 Doubles coins of Guernsey. How are the countries related?

Here is an image of that coin, borrowed from Don's World Gallery
(http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/nmc2/79-7.jpg)

very similar, although I doubt they are related, this is a fairly common image.
Great Britain use a similar one too. I'll add Guernsey to the list.


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: Goose on September 18, 2010, 08:13:06 AM
Yes, Great Britain has a similar design.....Guernsey is a British crown dependency and some of the 8 doubles were minted in Birmingham. (The Guernesy doubles coins are one of my favorite coins to collect.)


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: Sap on September 18, 2010, 08:18:33 AM
Steve, the Estonian coin (3 Lions on a Sheild) look almost exactly like the obverses of the 1834-1911 8 Doubles coins of Guernsey. How are the countries related?

They aren't. It's only on coins, which don't portray colour very well, that the two arms look the same.

The Estonian arms uses three blue lions on a gold background, derived from the arms of Denmark which once ruled the area. See Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Estonia).

The arms of Guernsey (and Jersey and England) are derived from the arms of Normandy, which had two gold lions on a red background. Richard the Lionheart, crusading King of England and Duke of Normandy, added the third gold lion, presumably to symbolize himself. Jersey and Guernsey, as the only remnants of the old Duchy of Normandy still in English hands, still both use the Normandy arms.

And just as an aside: you may occasionally see the animals on the English (and Channel Islander, and Estonian) arms described as "leopards" rather than lions. This comes about because of a technical distinction in heraldry. Large cat-like creatures that are standing upright on two legs (like the Scottish lion on their coat of arms) are called "lions". Otherwise identical creatures that are standing on three or four legs are called "leopards". You can still include heraldic "leopards" in your lion collection, though, since the same animal was intended. ;)


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: triggersmob on September 18, 2010, 08:56:27 AM
Thanks for the info, Sap.
Very informative.


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: triggersmob on September 18, 2010, 09:11:53 AM
Netherland Indies
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1945_Netherland_Indies_2_and_a_Half_Cents.JPG)

Netherlands
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1973_Netherlands_1_Gulden.JPG)

Norway
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1981_Norway_50_Ore.JPG)

Phillipines
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1974_Phillipines_1_Sentimo.JPG)

Singapore
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1995_Singapore_One_Cent.JPG)

Spain
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1991_Spain_One_Peseta.JPG)

Sweden
(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10048/1973_Sweden_One_Krona.JPG)




 


 






Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: triggersmob on September 18, 2010, 09:19:52 AM
That's all I can find in my collection.
It's up to you guys now.


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: Sap on September 18, 2010, 09:48:46 AM
I have some countries not yet on your list. I don't know how far back you want to include extinct countries (I see Czechoslovakia, East Africa and Netherlands East Indies are on your list) but I've only included 20th century ones. There are hundreds more that could be added, going back to ancient times.

Albania (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine.php?image=img11/2-3&desc=Albania%20km3%201/4%20Leku%20%281926-27%29&query=Albania%20km%203)
Armenia (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/Armenia.php)
Australia (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine.php?image=img4/10-55&desc=Australia%20km55%201%20Florin%20%281954%29%20Royal%20Visit%20F:D:%20added&query=Australia%20km%2055) - how could you miss that one, trigger? :D
Austria (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine_wd.php?dir=img6&image=11-2901&desc=Austria%20km2901%2025%20Schilling%20%281967%29%20Maria%20Theresa%20&query=Austria%20Theresa) - they're not very big, but they're there, on all the 25 and 50 schilling coins that depict the state arms. Three tiny ones in the little coat of arms on the reverse, at 2 o'clock - it's the arms of Carinthia. The arms of Salzburg at 6 o'clock has a slightly larger one. The large lion-like animal in the arms at 7 o'clock is actually the Panther of Styria (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/at-st.html), a goat-like critter with horns. :-[
Bohemia and Moravia (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine.php?image=img/23-4&desc=Bohemia%20and%20Moravia%20km4%201%20Koruna%20%281941-1944%29&query=Bohemia), a Nazi puppet state in what is now the Czech Republic.
Bulgaria (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine.php?image=img7/29-201&desc=Bulgaria%20km201%2050%20Stotinki%20%281992%29&query=Bulgaria%20km%20201)
Cyprus (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine.php?image=nmc1/50-26&desc=Cyprus%20km26%2018%20Piastres%20%281938,1940%29&query=Cyprus%20km%2026), a heraldic usage dating back to Richard the Lionheart's conquest of the island.
Denmark (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine.php?image=img4/54-851&desc=Denmark%20km851.1%201%20Krone%20%281960-1971%29&query=Denmark%20km%20851.1)
Israel (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine.php?image=img7/94-90&desc=Israel%20km90%205%20Lirot%20%281978-1979%29&query=Israel%20km%2090)
Italy (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine.php?image=img6/95-61_2&desc=Italy%20km61.2%2050%20Centesimi%20%281919-1925%29%20reeded&query=Italy%20km%2061.2)
Lebanon (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine.php?image=img/106-21&desc=Lebanon%20km21%205%20Piastres%20%281955,1961%29&query=Lebanon%20km%2021) - well, the head of one, anyway.
Paraguay (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine.php?image=img3/140-28&desc=Paraguay%20km28%2050%20Centimos%20%281953%29&query=Paraguay%20km%2028)
Rwanda-Burundi (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine.php?image=img13/rwb-1&desc=Rwanda-Burundi%20km1%201%20Franc%20%281960-1964%29&query=Rwanda%20km%201)
Sierra Leone (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine.php?image=img15/156-26&desc=Sierra%20Leonne%20km26%201%20Leone%20%281974%29%20Siaka%20Stevens&query=Sierra%20km%2026), of course! How could a country whose name means "Lion Mountains" not put lions on their coinage? ;)
Syria (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine.php?image=img10/173-71&desc=Syria%20km71%201%20Piastre%20%281929-1936%29&query=Syria%20km%2071), the same lion-head as used on the Lebanon coin, only now there's two of them.
Tanzania (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine.php?image=img1/174-200s98&desc=Tanzania%20km34%20200%20Shilingi%20%281998%29&query=Tanzania%20km%2034) - that lion with cub is sooo cute!
Many coins from Tibet (http://worldcoingallery.com/countries/coine.php?image=img10/229-23&desc=Tibet%20y23%201%20Sho%20%281932-1938%29&query=Tibet%20sho) feature the "snow lion" from local Buddhist mythology. He's much the same critter as the "lion" on Burmese coinage, so I suppose he still counts.


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: triggersmob on September 18, 2010, 10:28:40 AM
Sap, I forgot all about that Aussie one. Ooops!


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: Nighthawk on September 18, 2010, 09:46:38 PM
Great Britain 1/2 Crown, 1949   ;D


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: EgCollector on September 19, 2010, 12:25:48 AM
Again the 1700 SWISS - ZURICH 5 Schillings Silver  :)

(http://www.coincommunity.org/gallery/albums/userpics/10385/Obverse.jpg)


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 19, 2010, 01:47:35 AM
What about Canada 1967


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: Nighthawk on September 19, 2010, 01:49:26 AM
That's a good one PYW!   :)


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: triggersmob on September 19, 2010, 06:06:52 AM
This is great, 47 countries so far.
Keep them coming.


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: templar on September 19, 2010, 08:53:00 AM
BEAUTIFUL SELECTION OF "LIONS".......I AM SURE WE WILL LOCATE MORE :D


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 19, 2010, 06:36:18 PM
Pahlavi Iran 1349  :D not my calendar and I have to believe what the vendor said  >:(

It is not clear why the lion needs a sword ( perhaps somebody know ? )
I figure it is MS61 ( friction in the fields and a big bagmark allthough the cartwheels
lustre is still there )





Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: templar on September 19, 2010, 06:51:37 PM
MY UNCLE TRACED MY FATHER'S FAMILY BACK TO ENGLAND IN THE 1500'S AND FOUND A COAT OF ARMS OF OUR FAMILY AND IT BEARS 3 LIONS RAMPANT (STANDING) SO THE LIONS ARE USED IN ENGLAND THAT FAR BACK---AND THIS IS AFTER THE CRUSADES SO THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A CHANCE TO SEE THESE ANIMALS WHEN CRUSADING...IF I CAN FIND THE COLOR COPY OF THESE ARMS I WILL POST THEM....BUT FOR NOW THE SCANNER WILL HAVE TO DO
        THANK YOU .........THE TEMPLAR(http://)


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: Nighthawk on September 19, 2010, 07:18:18 PM
That's really neat Joe. Thanks for sharing!   :)


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: ElleKitty on September 19, 2010, 09:20:42 PM
lol.  I'm here, but you guys are doing really well all on your own! 

Countries like Somaliland and Slovenia that do the Zodiac coins will have lions on theirs.
Here are a few more that I found, and wanted to share.

British West Indies:
(http://www.omnicoin.com/coins/981886.jpg)

Guatemala:
(http://www.omnicoin.com/coins/955612.jpg)

Rhodesia and Nyasaland:
(http://www.omnicoin.com/coins/955611.jpg)

Paraguay (Mentioned, but I didn't see picture?):
(http://www.omnicoin.com/coins/953828.jpg)

Mali:
(http://www.omnicoin.com/coins/953555.jpg)

Fiji (Horrid picture of a worn coin, but the Heraldric 'leopard' is there.)
(http://www.omnicoin.com/coins/948343.jpg)

Bermuda:
(http://www.omnicoin.com/coins/935405.jpg)

Congo:
(http://www.omnicoin.com/coins/932442.jpg)


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: Nighthawk on September 20, 2010, 01:32:17 AM
Wow Ms. Kitty! Very nice! Thank you for sharing!   :)


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: templar on September 20, 2010, 04:27:06 AM
VERY IMPRESSIVE ARRAY OF COINS BUT THE ONE FROM PARAGUAY CONFUSES ME AS THERE ARE NO LIONS IN S.A.------JAGUARS AND BLACK PANTHERS MAYBE----ALSO IS THAT COIN FROM PARAGUAY MADE OF GOLD ???


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: triggersmob on September 20, 2010, 04:36:41 PM
Nice coins, Kitty and PYW.
That's 54 now.
Keep them coming.


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: templar on September 21, 2010, 06:41:31 PM
I PICKED UP SOME COINS AT A COIN CLUB LAST NIGHT BECAUSE THEY HAD LIONS ON THEM........THEY ARE BOTH FROM BELGIUM .....SO I SCANNED THEM FRONT AND BACK....I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE BEEN SHOWN.......(http://)


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 21, 2010, 09:42:03 PM
It is a two year coin of pure nickel showing the heraldic shields of the provincies West Flanders, Namur, and Limburg
A little less then 11 million coins were made
Non returned amount not shown



Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: templar on September 22, 2010, 09:02:34 AM
THANKS PYW---I FIGURED YOU WOULD RECOGNIZE THEM---MY BOOK DOES SAY THEY WERE 2 YEAR COINS MADE OF NICKEL--------DID THE WAR STOP THEIR PRODUCTION?


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: Sap on September 22, 2010, 04:02:46 PM
...
It is not clear why the lion needs a sword ( perhaps somebody know ? )
...

The lion-and-sun symbol is a Turko-persian symbol, astrological in origin, and swordless lion-and-suns can be found on coins dating back to the Crusader period. The sword was added to the Persian national symbol sometime in the early 1800s. Originally it was the Zu’l-faqar, the Sword of Ali (founder of the Shiite sect); the lion holding it symbolising the power of the Shiite religion and the Sun represented the King. As the monarchy became secularized and europeanized, the sword was kept but the official meaning of the sword changed, emphasising the power of Persia's military forces.


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 22, 2010, 06:31:21 PM
THANKS PYW---I FIGURED YOU WOULD RECOGNIZE THEM---MY BOOK DOES SAY THEY WERE 2 YEAR COINS MADE OF NICKEL--------DID THE WAR STOP THEIR PRODUCTION?

During the war years till 1945 the 1 franc was made in zinc


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: Paint Your Wagon on September 22, 2010, 06:41:13 PM
...
It is not clear why the lion needs a sword ( perhaps somebody know ? )
...

The lion-and-sun symbol is a Turko-persian symbol, astrological in origin, and swordless lion-and-suns can be found on coins dating back to the Crusader period. The sword was added to the Persian national symbol sometime in the early 1800s. Originally it was the Zu’l-faqar, the Sword of Ali (founder of the Shiite sect); the lion holding it symbolising the power of the Shiite religion and the Sun represented the King. As the monarchy became secularized and europeanized, the sword was kept but the official meaning of the sword changed, emphasising the power of Persia's military forces.

Thanks
I am more acquainted with the French and walloon Rooster as symbol of prowess
Flanders has a Lion too ; standing up and clawing (flemish anthem)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Vlaamse_Leeuw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vlaamse_vlag.jpg

Flemish buildings goverment intructions of which flag to fly
http://docs.portal.vlaanderen.be/channels/hoofdmenu/vlaamseoverheid/vlag_waarom.jsp

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Vlaamse_vlag.jpg)


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: templar on September 22, 2010, 06:47:17 PM
THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION

         TEMPLAR(http://)


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: ElleKitty on September 24, 2010, 03:19:47 AM
VERY IMPRESSIVE ARRAY OF COINS BUT THE ONE FROM PARAGUAY CONFUSES ME AS THERE ARE NO LIONS IN S.A.------JAGUARS AND BLACK PANTHERS MAYBE----ALSO IS THAT COIN FROM PARAGUAY MADE OF GOLD ???

This coin is made of copper, and is in a very nice condition for this particular issue.  It is the first coin minted in the name of Paraguay as it's own separate country.  The Lion is likely left over from the European connection/ Parent country.


Title: Re: Lions on Coins
Post by: templar on September 24, 2010, 04:36:53 AM
WHAT EVER THE REASON FOR CHOOSING THE LION----PARAGUAY'S COIN IS A BEAUTY------THANKS FOR SHARING.