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« Reply #90 on: February 24, 2008, 08:03:56 AM »

My neighbour is a cook and he is on unemployment money now for more then 10 years
He just goes fishing every day fish will bite

Since he will have no extralegal pensions coming I really do not understand why he is not working now and then
It is perfectly allowed to work let's say 5 days a months if you pay taxes and use a temp interim agency

Don't you have a Department  of Parked in the Park like we do? On any given day you can go by a florida park and see three or four county  lumps sitting in their trucks reading  newspapers. I've never seen any of them fishing but I'm sure it wouldn't be that much of a strain to put a newspaper and a fishing rod in the truck as long as they're  wearing their back braces.  Cheesy

The welfare state is an amazing spectacle of the phony.  Right now the democratlins are worried about helping the poor illegal immigrants by making the legal.  They forget to mention the part about helping themselves to the taxes that 13 million of them would pay.

The Republicrats  have all sorts of nationalistic reasons why illegals shouldn't be made legal.  Including one that actually makes sense: It rewards law breakers. They seem to forget the part about  Corporate Pig bags benefiting  from cheap labor. Not to mention  the leverage they can deploy against them.  Is a meat packing plant using illegals really going to even think about a union? They also forget that it's not likely that a Mexican family can live in the U.S on Poppi's i $1.50 an hour wage.  Welfare from the states makes up the difference which is the same thing as giving the welfare to some pig face CEO making $100 million a year.

Both sides seem the ignore the fact that  the middle class is being driven to extinction from all this. That part at least in not too surprising since destroying the middle class and making Americans dependent on crumbs from strangers  is exactly what the plan is.

The middle class in this country had better get with it. Especially the boomers. They were born into this world as spoiled brats. But they are no longer  part of the  equation except to the extent that they can be looted.  They had better realize it soon or they will be leaving this world as arrogant paupers.

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« Reply #91 on: February 24, 2008, 08:49:40 PM »

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The welfare state is an amazing spectacle of the phony

Yes and No
There are those with a dozen children only 2 their own who get paid for the other 10 they took on their marriage booklet I hear say
so officially they have 12 and the state has the money to pay them but not to control them
There is this child surviving for like 3 years in a flemish hospital because in Algeria it would have died 3 years ago I seem to remember TV reported
There is all those immigrants who refuse to take off their headdresses but whose husband or friend or brother  are driving second hand Mercedes Benz or lately second hand Beemers and who buy houses without bathroom and central heating no flemish want and renovate them with all their family which is probably on social assistance paid because they do not find work whilst doubling the value of their house
This is all hearsay of course

But then there is those Flemish infirms whose city budget has been reduced to give more money for youth houses for the immigrants

In all fairness and not to be accused of immigrant bias I have to say that I know quiet some Flemish who are gaming the system too

The real loosers are those like my wife that suffer from Fibromialgy which disease is NOT recognised and others which are really too ill but have a problem that is not recognised by normal medicine.
We have people living and dying in the streets of Brussels because they are too marginal to understand and use the system
They sleep in the streets and die in the streets
They are paid infirmity or social security meaning they are unable to work or unable to find work ....
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« Reply #92 on: February 26, 2008, 06:48:49 AM »

Redistributing income and allowing people to "game the system" is how they:

A) Turn the masses against each other.
B) Create dependency within the masses.
C) To control them.

Government is centralization and centralization  has been  dying since the mid 70's. Technology is destroying the returns to scale. And the status quo,  *you can believe* will do all that they  can to hold it together.  It's the immovable object of centralization  meets the irresistible force of decentralization. It's going to be quite a mess. And IMO, may go on for a really long time. There are still a lot of games to be played with this.

The USSR and China failed with centralization first because they were the two grossest examples of it. And they could not bring in any more totalitarianism to hold it together. How many times can you shoot someone for "breaking the rules?"

A better way, from the view of todays status quo is to get the masses to beg for crumbs and to steal any and all privacy from them in the process.
Even the feudal lord wanna bees on wallstreet are begging for crumbs from Big Ben--pretty sad.   

Some day the zombies in this country are going to run out of pills, their vision is going to clear for a few seconds and they will see what's really happened.  Why, they might even become  lucid enough to  view their  personal privacy as *private property*  stolen from them.  Inflation or deflation, I think that could  be a  really good moment to be sitting on metals.
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« Reply #93 on: February 26, 2008, 09:01:12 PM »


The USSR and China failed with centralization first because they were the two grossest examples of it. And they could not bring in any more totalitarianism to hold it together. How many times can you shoot someone for "breaking the rules?"

Some day the zombies in this country are going to run out of pills, their vision is going to clear for a few seconds and they will see what's really happened.  Why, they might even become  lucid enough to  view their  personal privacy as *private property*  stolen from them.  Inflation or deflation, I think that could  be a  really good moment to be sitting on metals.

That will not stop forces in the USA from trying to repeat the mistakes of the socialist Russians and Chinese.  Believe you me, when the $#!+ hits the fan, the first thing that the government with the guns and munitions will come after is your food and your gold, because they represent real power, and the guns can take it by creating the fear.  I am sure that there were those in early 1920's Germany that thought they couldn't possibly be lead by totalitarian regimes that would destroy the country a mere 20 years later. 

The Russians and Chinese learned from their mistakes, if you believe me not, just travel to their respective countries and see blatant commercialization at it's peak.  Especially in China in the next few years, the financial plutocrats are going to agitate for greater representation in the government and question why they are not the political force, but instead are being led by backward peasants in the form of the Communist party and the army and not the financial and economic intelligentsia.  Why else would Berozovsky and several other Russian oligarchs fall out of favour with the Russian government led by an ex KGB and Communist Party man?  Because they represent a real and serious threat to the people in political power.
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« Reply #94 on: February 27, 2008, 06:54:18 AM »

Your papers...they are not in order... Shocked
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=57228
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